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Ivan Tucker's avatar

An interesting read, but why don't you use a proofreader, or an app like Grammarly? Your posts are littered with typos, wrongly spelled words, and missing words (e.g. verbs without an object). It really isn't hard to get rid of most of the errors in your writing and improve the grammar. Whilst an app might not notice when you use morays instead of mores, it will spot much of the other stuff.

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First of all, yes I agree pragmatically the human must inescapably perceive of something that is certain of everything. The belief that certainty of everything exists and that someone somewhere possesses this certainty is I believe the psychological cause that makes perceiving "God" in whichever form inevitable to humans.

Your approach to proving what this God specifically is, is something I can heavily empathize with, although I still do not share the certainty in this God you preach and consider necessary.

Consider your argument:

"There exists an abstract mathematical substrate that has baked specific laws into reality. Laws that make our existence in the universe, or the existence of something very much like us, inevitable."

I do not think this is, frankly, enough. It's certainly perhaps compelling insofar that it builds upon human nature to notice patterns and extrapolate trends of cause and effect onto to the very fabric of reality to conclude reality too must have a cause. It does make a compelling conclusion that if math is real then infinity too must somehow somewhere be real.

But I think Hume answered this by pointing out that another perception humans have is that you CAN'T just blindly deduce from qualities of the parts of something the qualities of the whole of something. Hume articulated the fallacy of composition--that just because humans have a mother humanity need not have a mother--and this trend of doubting our human perceptions and our tendency of projecting what is locally true onto the whole universe really does make sustained belief in a meaningful "God" difficult.

How do we actually know that most other numbers being real in real life means infinity must actually really exist somewhere physically? What if infinity does exist in reality and it's just time? Is "time" mystical enough to call it "God" and be satisfied?

We must soberly confront the fact that what if human nature requires us to believe in God for us to be psychologically healthy, but despite all this belief in God is unfortunately not something our rationality alone is inclined to have us perceive as 100% certain? Maybe human nature in regards to God is just... incompatible. At odds with itself. Our primal intuitions that kept us alive on the savanna notice a basic pattern and scream one thing and our faculties for reason and skepticism scream back doubts. What if humans weren't made to have a psychologically sound worldview? What if evolution is a blind and dumb optimality function that is not required to make a creature whose own nature is compatible nor consistent with other parts of it's nature?

Tldr; I don't find myself particularly certain of the God you posit. And that's what you need: CERTAINTY. No passion without conviction, no conviction without certainty. I think if there is no standard for all beliefs and values that is absolutely certain, and justification for this perception of certainty has been provided, than God might have to be respected as an inevitable conclusion of PARTS of human nature, but other parts of our nature would have us remain in perpetual doubt. And some doubt is fine and inevitable, but the perception as inescapably certain must remain.

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