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> I suspect many readers remember the “there is no war on Christmas!” rhetoric

I used to work at a large company that you've all definitely heard of. During December, the CTO would send out emails to the entire company explaining the cultural significance of the various holidays in December.

I worked there 6 years, they never sent one about Christmas, ever. In fact, they would bend over backwards and go out of their way to avoid saying the word "Christmas". They would quite literally send emails that said things like "whether you observe Diwali, Kwanzaa, Hannukah, or the holidays, we wish you the best"

I always thought the "war on christmas" meme was a made up thing used to spin up stupid Christians, until I noticed this pattern. It's absolutely real, it's absolutely intentional.

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> Thus is the idea that society can be maintained with limited coercion because people are inherently “good” and only want what is “best” for “everyone.”

I have lived in the US for fifteen years, but In 54 days I get deported back the frozen shithole from whence I came, permanently. I need to fuck off to make room for more illegals

So I've been deeply pondering the differences between Canada and America, and this is one of them. Your statement is true, kind of, about Canada.

For the last 15 years I've gotten shit from both sides, Canadians as well as (liberal) Americans, who have this insane and totally backwards idea that Canadians are nicer / more moral / more liberal than Americans. Snarky comments about, say, the difference between Canadian and American policing. But, having seen both sides, you know what I think?

The only difference between American and Canadian policing are the behaviour of the policed.

Canadians _think_ they have a more 'enlightened' society, but what they actually have is a society where nobody ever tests the rules. Why that is the case is an essay all on its own, and given Canadian immigration policy, in a few more years it will no longer matter, but this is the case. When I lived in Oakland, California (~40% black people), snarky (white) Canadians would go on and on about how racist the Americans are. And I couldn't help but notice that all of the Canadians saying things like that lived a 3 hour drive away from the nearest minority. Not minority _group_. Just, they've probably only met a single digit number of black people in their lives.

I am not at all implying that 'living near black people' justifies racism (although, well, that's another essay too). What I'm saying is that Canadians are not actually less racist. They've just never been tested. Canadian authorities can get away with limited coercion, allowing Canadian people to maintain the pretense of moral superiority, because Canadian people always stay within the lines that the Canadian authorities want them to. But in those very limited moments when Canadian people get too close to those lines, Canadian authorities react with a level of brutality that I have never seen in America.

For that matter, when the conditions that allow Canadians to be 'moral' while living on auto-pilot change (such as, for example, if you wake up one morning to realize that ~1 in every 8 people came from India in the last five years), the Canadian moral superiority fast goes out the window. I've heard more Canadians say "deport them all" than Americans. Even worse, when Americans say that, most of them mean "the illegals", but the Canadians saying that mean "all of them"; remember, those Indian immigrants came to Canada legally.

I don't really have a point, beyond illustrating the pattern you're describing

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