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Boflys's avatar

Interesting to think about the phycology of this. Imagine what Elon Musk could fund if he wanted to. I’m a 20 year retired army officer and I wouldn’t do it again for this bullshit government. But I’d do it for the glory of what western civilization is supposed to be. Now realistically WTF does this “lord” know about running an army or the logistics of invading a country or controlling the country in the aftermath? Probably nonsense. But it certainly made me think. Thanks.

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Copernican's avatar

What does he know? Probably nothing. That said, he's not retarded, and he's stated that he's talking to PMCs and other specialists about the possibility. Then he'll have a standing patrol force of around 30k individuals with specialist teams of hired PMCs. In theory.

Alternatively, it's all one gigantic shitpost.

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Boflys's avatar

Either way what a great mental exercise in motivating western men.

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the long warred's avatar

That’s the point

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Will Tyndale's avatar

Haiti is an adventure. But real men conquer Mexican Drug Lords, create a DMZ, and deport 50 million non-whites.

Time for the 50-50-50 Plan in 3 monumental steps:

1) Conquer 50 miles into Mexico to create a DMZ and deportation center.

2) Process and deport 50 million illegals going all the way back to the 1960’s.

3) Finish this in 50 months. One million deportations a month.

Final note: It is hard to be drug lords when Hispanics walking the streets of America will be shot in the street.

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Noah's avatar

The reason I think that is because reading the book made me want to form a company of mercenaries and have my own city-state. I agree with some of your other commentators that this guy probably does not know what he is talking about but I also think you do make an excellent point that it is only a matter of time at this point before someone comes along and actually means this.

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Noah's avatar

To be honest last election when I was worried about what a Harris win would mean for the church I had wondered if there would be enough time before the left really started cracking down for me to get a force together and launch a coup in my area of Ohio and make it into a Christian fief with my house as the government. I live in the Dayton area which is a very nice part of Ohio / the Midwest but it has been subject to the same kind of Urban decay that you talk about a lot of your earlier writings. I don't think it's completely irreversible and with a competent monarchy in the area it could actually be a great personal fiefdom.

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Copernican's avatar

A competent Monarchy could fix a lot of things if given the space to act. Parliamentary systems are built around ass-covering by blaming the voter. That said, the US is far too strong of a system to realistically fight against. You have to work within it or leave entirely. Direct confrontation with the US government in almost any capacity is an inherently losing proposition for the foreseeable future.

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Oregonian's avatar

The last call of the West would be the independent nation of Alaska- energy, metals, hydro-electricity, massive amounts of land, water, etc; close to new Arctic sea routes and proximate to Asia, the growth engine of the 21st century. Open to Northern/Eastern European immigration, high tech manufacturing, and small, limited Government. Population of only 700,000; most in one major city. Cut a deal with the USA for energy and security agreements, so it is Better for the federal government than the current arrangement. Alaska is the last best prize of the West.

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Noah's avatar

I do apologize for the late reply. You have a good point with a lot of this. And I'll definitely take into account what you said about the government being too strong to realistically fight against.

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Copernican's avatar

Direct combat with the United States government (or any first-world government) places you in a losing position. Rather, figuring out how to optimize against their bureaucrats or fly under the interest of their bureaucrats is a better solution to survival.

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Centaur Write Satyr, MBA's avatar

We can also apply this logic to prison gangs. Assuming 10-20% of our prison pop is motivated by violence, plus 3 acres and a mule, we could invade all sorts of crazy places

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Copernican's avatar

I believe I stated that explicitly in one of my older articles: https://alwaysthehorizon.substack.com/p/post-faustian-ethnos-identity-and?r=43z8s4

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Centaur Write Satyr, MBA's avatar

As genius comic Kurt Metzger is fond of saying: "What's a country but a giant prison?"

Now let's tie some threads together:

https://peteribanks.substack.com/p/outsourcing-state-capacity-to-skinheads/comment/113842814?utm_source=activity_item

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The Candid Clodhopper's avatar

This is legitimately interesting. While I think there's a lot of internet idle talk and lulz involved, what's fascinating is not just the fact that a handful of serious backers and 30 or 50,000 volunteers to fight *literally could* conquer Haiti...but the fact that I don't think any real nation would give enough of a shit to intervene.

Haiti might literally be the most Godforsaken nation on Earth. Who the fuck would care if it was conquered?

The next question would be the political instability possible in the aftermath of such a conquest. If nobody intervened, why wouldn't the US just declare Greenland and Canada states and follow suit? Does a nation intervene on Haiti's behalf simply because Jamaica or the Bahamas might be next?

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Copernican's avatar

I think some response is likely from the international community on teh simple grounds that if 100k soldiers of fortune can get together and do what they want, it'll instigate global instability as a shitload of young European men want to follow the example.

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Nate's avatar

If we could show the world we can take Haiti we could muster a force to take back England.

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Nate's avatar

May it be ever so.

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rovachol's avatar

We all should just move to Argentina and have upscale the demographics there. Quite nice place.

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Copernican's avatar

It is a point of consideration, but the American arms market is the best on earth. When does Argentina get a 2A?

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Mushkelji's avatar

Excellent article, I plan to write something giving more of the inside perspective but I will leave it at this.

Thousands of young men have joined the military looking for adventure and meaning but have been met by a faceless bureaucracy that cares more about cyber awareness certifications than it does warfighting. They have training, will, and vitality and as you have said they will go to the first person to offer a real outlet for it.

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Copernican's avatar

It's become dangerously easy to rally large groups of well-trained and well-armed young men across the West. All it'll take is a spark.

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Ted Rice's avatar

Well, Miles would probably become the reincarnation of William Walker, who took Nicaragua in the 1850's and became its President, with the same eventual result. Taking Haiti would be more difficult, but holding it nearly impossible, and actually running it totally impossible.

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Copernican's avatar

I don't understand why you think it would be impossible to hold.

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Ted's avatar

As foreigners without a national backing, logistics would be very difficult. How are you going to pay to feed a nation? Where is your income coming from? Haiti is a basket case. Guerilla resistance would also begin almost immediately.

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Fred's avatar

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The Brothers Krynn's avatar

Lol

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Uncouth Barbarian's avatar

The future is medieval.

If there are empires, they will rule nations again. Not this disjointed junk we currently have where we have no sense of people or purpose. There will be duchies and dependencies. Barons and rulers. Peoples and zones.

Either the US will revitalize and work towards structuring towards that as a way to shore up it's foundation, or the break up will be long and those structures and institutions will arise organically.

Either way - you can see things like California as a sign of this. The Barons of California have been ignoring federal laws for over a decade now. Oregon. Colorado. Texas is beginning to when it started ignoring Biden to enforce the laws.

We're on a path towards these things, and have been.

As California goes, so goes the country.

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Copernican's avatar

It does look like we're headed that way, but I suspect that this political conniption won't usher it in. We'll pass through an Empire phase first, and we aren't even all the way out of Republic to Empire yet.

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John Pork's avatar

Makes sense Mckinley (thought he did not want to) would invade Spain and with that young men would find joy fighting and exploring the philippines (taft would be governor) and there be the Boxer rebellion which a future president Herbert Hoover would engineer a defense against the boxers. I think this contrasts from ww1 and ww2 which was just awful, We yearn for actual exploration

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Copernican's avatar

True.

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shorterboy's avatar

this is why millions signed up for a one way trip to Mars and if Elon ever pulls off the Mars thing the west will empty

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Copernican's avatar

Also true.

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Burner One's avatar

Lord Miles or a talented orator who can paint fine art from Austria? Who cares at this point?

We need, demand an entire reset of their system.

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Karma's avatar

Great article though I think you're not being conservative enough with your estimates. Only 1/100 would put on boots and leave the house and only 1/10 of those would carry a rifle. Accumulating donations would be impossible in the regularly banking system and the authorities would shut off the taps immediately.

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Copernican's avatar

I'm not sure if the authorities will care enough to shut off the monetary taps. If you can get a foot in the door you can probably pull loans from the IMF... Lots' of small nations get infrastructure loans and loans to put down rebellions.

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Robert Lionheart's avatar

Can we invade Commiefornia instead? Probably less resistance! As for the Haiti invasion, I'm 55 with no combat skills and I'm 1000% on-board. I just want a nice beach house! And maybe a rum plantation.

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James Bowery's avatar

All it will take is one kid like this to understand militia.money and all our dreams will come true.

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