Interesting to think about the phycology of this. Imagine what Elon Musk could fund if he wanted to. I’m a 20 year retired army officer and I wouldn’t do it again for this bullshit government. But I’d do it for the glory of what western civilization is supposed to be. Now realistically WTF does this “lord” know about running an army or the logistics of invading a country or controlling the country in the aftermath? Probably nonsense. But it certainly made me think. Thanks.
What does he know? Probably nothing. That said, he's not retarded, and he's stated that he's talking to PMCs and other specialists about the possibility. Then he'll have a standing patrol force of around 30k individuals with specialist teams of hired PMCs. In theory.
The reason I think that is because reading the book made me want to form a company of mercenaries and have my own city-state. I agree with some of your other commentators that this guy probably does not know what he is talking about but I also think you do make an excellent point that it is only a matter of time at this point before someone comes along and actually means this.
To be honest last election when I was worried about what a Harris win would mean for the church I had wondered if there would be enough time before the left really started cracking down for me to get a force together and launch a coup in my area of Ohio and make it into a Christian fief with my house as the government. I live in the Dayton area which is a very nice part of Ohio / the Midwest but it has been subject to the same kind of Urban decay that you talk about a lot of your earlier writings. I don't think it's completely irreversible and with a competent monarchy in the area it could actually be a great personal fiefdom.
A competent Monarchy could fix a lot of things if given the space to act. Parliamentary systems are built around ass-covering by blaming the voter. That said, the US is far too strong of a system to realistically fight against. You have to work within it or leave entirely. Direct confrontation with the US government in almost any capacity is an inherently losing proposition for the foreseeable future.
The last call of the West would be the independent nation of Alaska- energy, metals, hydro-electricity, massive amounts of land, water, etc; close to new Arctic sea routes and proximate to Asia, the growth engine of the 21st century. Open to Northern/Eastern European immigration, high tech manufacturing, and small, limited Government. Population of only 700,000; most in one major city. Cut a deal with the USA for energy and security agreements, so it is Better for the federal government than the current arrangement. Alaska is the last best prize of the West.
I do apologize for the late reply. You have a good point with a lot of this. And I'll definitely take into account what you said about the government being too strong to realistically fight against.
Direct combat with the United States government (or any first-world government) places you in a losing position. Rather, figuring out how to optimize against their bureaucrats or fly under the interest of their bureaucrats is a better solution to survival.
We can also apply this logic to prison gangs. Assuming 10-20% of our prison pop is motivated by violence, plus 3 acres and a mule, we could invade all sorts of crazy places
This is legitimately interesting. While I think there's a lot of internet idle talk and lulz involved, what's fascinating is not just the fact that a handful of serious backers and 30 or 50,000 volunteers to fight *literally could* conquer Haiti...but the fact that I don't think any real nation would give enough of a shit to intervene.
Haiti might literally be the most Godforsaken nation on Earth. Who the fuck would care if it was conquered?
The next question would be the political instability possible in the aftermath of such a conquest. If nobody intervened, why wouldn't the US just declare Greenland and Canada states and follow suit? Does a nation intervene on Haiti's behalf simply because Jamaica or the Bahamas might be next?
I think some response is likely from the international community on teh simple grounds that if 100k soldiers of fortune can get together and do what they want, it'll instigate global instability as a shitload of young European men want to follow the example.
Excellent article, I plan to write something giving more of the inside perspective but I will leave it at this.
Thousands of young men have joined the military looking for adventure and meaning but have been met by a faceless bureaucracy that cares more about cyber awareness certifications than it does warfighting. They have training, will, and vitality and as you have said they will go to the first person to offer a real outlet for it.
Well, Miles would probably become the reincarnation of William Walker, who took Nicaragua in the 1850's and became its President, with the same eventual result. Taking Haiti would be more difficult, but holding it nearly impossible, and actually running it totally impossible.
As foreigners without a national backing, logistics would be very difficult. How are you going to pay to feed a nation? Where is your income coming from? Haiti is a basket case. Guerilla resistance would also begin almost immediately.
If there are empires, they will rule nations again. Not this disjointed junk we currently have where we have no sense of people or purpose. There will be duchies and dependencies. Barons and rulers. Peoples and zones.
Either the US will revitalize and work towards structuring towards that as a way to shore up it's foundation, or the break up will be long and those structures and institutions will arise organically.
Either way - you can see things like California as a sign of this. The Barons of California have been ignoring federal laws for over a decade now. Oregon. Colorado. Texas is beginning to when it started ignoring Biden to enforce the laws.
We're on a path towards these things, and have been.
It does look like we're headed that way, but I suspect that this political conniption won't usher it in. We'll pass through an Empire phase first, and we aren't even all the way out of Republic to Empire yet.
Makes sense Mckinley (thought he did not want to) would invade Spain and with that young men would find joy fighting and exploring the philippines (taft would be governor) and there be the Boxer rebellion which a future president Herbert Hoover would engineer a defense against the boxers. I think this contrasts from ww1 and ww2 which was just awful, We yearn for actual exploration
Great article though I think you're not being conservative enough with your estimates. Only 1/100 would put on boots and leave the house and only 1/10 of those would carry a rifle. Accumulating donations would be impossible in the regularly banking system and the authorities would shut off the taps immediately.
I'm not sure if the authorities will care enough to shut off the monetary taps. If you can get a foot in the door you can probably pull loans from the IMF... Lots' of small nations get infrastructure loans and loans to put down rebellions.
Can we invade Commiefornia instead? Probably less resistance! As for the Haiti invasion, I'm 55 with no combat skills and I'm 1000% on-board. I just want a nice beach house! And maybe a rum plantation.
Oh, you mean a "feminist" who can be raped at will by any man she publicly proclaims she sexually accepts until she equally publicly retracts that acceptance?
A "feminist" who, if she wants the vote, would have to accept a challenge to a mutual hunt in nature equipped only with a 25cm blade and 15m of strong cordage?
And a "cartel" where the capo can be challenged to similar mutual hunt in nature by any soldado?
What is it with you Russians and your gangs? Are you really such little shits that you have to gang up on individuals like I saw in Irkutsk walking down the sidewalk nearly splattered by the blood of a guy who a bunch were beating to pulp?
"feminist" because the only specific law in the whole document is weirdly directed at rape
"cartel" because the whole document reeks of "might makes right", where the best murderer can easily solve any dispute into his own favour
That whole document reeks of some individualistic shitposter which has never held something heavier than his discount AR-15 he shoots racoons with, and who read enough Kipling and Carter to believe that if people have a right to ritually kill each other that'll turn into something better than a complete chaos and a shitshtorm.
That last ad hominem is so weird and pathetic I won't even answer it.
Gangsters like gang rape so I suppose it makes sense that you'd see it as feminist.
The roots of this law are in world war II veterans dealing with the emergence of communism on the heels of the US alliance with a Soviet Union.
As for "might makes right" and "cartel" you not only failed to address the scenario in which the capo (cartel boss) can be killed by an individual thereby rendering the whole "cartel" analogy invalid, but you also failed to address the conditions of the mutual hunt in nature so I'll spell it out for you in an illustrative story regarding what constitutes "might":
The Tale of Lin Tse
An enormously big lumberjack, who was also a bully, took a delight in tormenting the Chinese whenever they appeared at the company store. He thought it especially hilarious to trip them when they were loaded with supplies and going out the door. Also he kept alive and continually embellished the mistake of the intended bride being placed in the brothel. His joy in that joke on these small stature people, when his only pride was his bulk and strength, reached to inexhaustible extremes. The hatred that the Chinese felt for him is fully understandable when the stories told show that the other loggers were ashamed that he was one of them. The Chinese had become well enough acquainted with the logger’s ways to understand most of the foul jokes and to understand that this man’s attitude didn’t represent that held by most of the others. The other loggers continually admonished the bully with “you wouldn’t talk like that to a man who was big enough to challenge you to a fight.”
Then one day when this remark was made after the usual taunts from the giant logger it brought a memorable response from one of the Chinese. The target at the moment was a slight, sensitive-faced Chinese man named Lin Tse who had come into the store alone. The fury that had been burning showed itself in this man who contained it with the patient endurance that countless centuries had bred in his being. It didn’t leap into flame; it glowed with a small controlled dignity like some unearthly fire.
Lin’s purchase was only a small package and although there was a big audience of men gathered in the store the bully didn’t think it worthwhile to trip him as he went out. He contented himself with foul worded jokes. Lin heard the other loggers disapproval expressed in “you’d be more careful with a man who was big enough to fight you.” Lin Tse knew the full meaning of the fight to which the words referred and his understanding and deliberation created drama when he turned and faced the bully and the roomful of men with dignity.
The surprise of his turning to meet them instead of hurrying out the door as unobtrusively as possible caused a hush to fall. In the waiting silence his words were clear and in fully understandable English, “If you gentlemen will ensure a fair fight, I will meet this man.”
There was only a short pause before someone said enthusiastically, “Let’s give them guns. That’s the only way to make a fair fight in this case.”
The foreman was there and spoke up. “No. We’ve all agreed. No more guns. I’d like to see the little guy have his chance, but the judge said if there’s another suspicious shooting every man here will face trial as an accomplice of a murderer.
Before an argument developed on the point Lin announced, “I do not want guns. Fifteen meters of strong cordage in addition to a knife will make an equal fight if there’s a big area that has not been logged clean.”
The big man didn’t like the sound of things and, with a guffaw, he tried to go back to the joking game, “He wants to tie me up before he fights me.” He pulled the end of the rope from a nearby coil, threw it at Lin, and held out his wrists with, “Here, let’s see you do it.”
No one laughed. The men were all on their feet and approaching the little man with an interest that was clearly that of a wolf pack moving up on a fight, but also with a silence that verged on becoming a reverent calm. They asked what he could do with a length of cordage.
Lin answered, “Man is intelligent. His intelligence makes him a fit opponent for a bear or even an elephant. With a knife and a cord a man can make a spear, or a bow and arrow, or a trap. He can do many things. He can fight with his intelligence, not just his bulk or his skill in handling a gun. But surprise is necessary to use intelligence. Man does not show the bear how he plans to trap him. I think it is fair that I and this man-bear have equal knives and lengths of cord but do not tell how we will use them.”
The trap had been sprung. A man had used the weight of a mob for an intelligent purpose by appealing to fair play rather than the usual half-sleeping mob tendencies toward turning a fight into mob entertainment. The bully tried all the jokes and tricks he had learned in his attempt to put a laughing, leering mob behind him, but the mob weight was all used to make him accept the challenge on the fair terms stated. He wanted to reduce the size of the combat area but they insisted on making it big enough to give strategy its due weight.
The fight lasted a day and an night and well into the next day. Three times the big man tried to come out but the jeers of the others drove him back. At twilight on the second day, when everyone was preparing to go into another all night vigil, Lin appeared at the designated place and said calmly, “A man is dead in the woods. Would some of you gentlemen help me carry him out.”
If the method Lin used to bring down the big man was ever known, it isn’t of record, but the occasion touched the imagination of the men. An area big enough to permit strategy, a knife with a 25 cm blade, too short for sophisticated swordsmanship, and a fifteen meter length of cordage, strong enough to jerk up a big man’s weight, became the criteria of a fair fight.
Whether it was: (1) Simple fear of the unknown when contemplated through light and dark hours in the forest or (2) a new respect for the unknown in people, when meeting those different from oneself; would be hard to determine; but the number of deaths by unstated causes in Camp 38 decreased after the establishment of those criteria for fairness.
p. 123-125 “Camp 38: Current Model of Northern European Lifestyle Before Christianity” by Jill von Konen, ISBN 0-914752-19-7, Sovereign Press, 326 Harris Rd., Rochester, WA 98579
So even better, it isn’t even a fair fight but a gook-ish stay in the woods that’ll favor the most unrelenting killer. In a society like this a single cold-blooded murderer can strung up any and each “sovereign” (the non-ironic usage of this word highlights a 87th degree derangement btw) who disagrees with his actions, then rule over the rest as they’re cowed into submission. If you want to larp some shizo ideas of “there’s a deterrent to conflicts so people try not to conflict”, at least pick something based like high noon duels of the West. I won’t even adress a cartel situation, because absent of a challenge like you mentioned, if someone singlehandedly disposes of a capo, he’s very likely to become the next one due to his skills and newly-found reputation.
Oh, and of course this whole rant is accompanied by a phobia of communism, ever looming treat above Liberty™ and Democracy™. Who would’ve thought that you have a Red Menace hiding under your bed!
I do think that we need a formalized dueling culture. Especially among any proposed nobility... but it needs to be a real dueling culture. Not a might-is-right sly-murderer-wins culture. One where dedication, virtue, and training matter.
Longsword, rapier, black powder pistol, that type of thing. A more traditional and formalized system of honorable violence and potentially lethal engagement. It doesn't have to be lethal; often it won't be.
Completely discounting physical discipline and acuity leads to an environment where your leaders are cowards and your soldiers are fools. There is a fair balance between simple brute violence as a method of social organization and a cowardly rule-by-law that now governs the West.
In a year or two, once things settle down (and here is a sentence that has not been uttered once in human history since 1804) I think I might take a vacation in Haiti
Once the conquest is over, all sorts of wilderness/agriculture/permaculture people would absolutely RUSH in, knowing they could plant native, useful, and edible trees, without having to worry about Haitians cutting them down to sell for firewood.
Interesting to think about the phycology of this. Imagine what Elon Musk could fund if he wanted to. I’m a 20 year retired army officer and I wouldn’t do it again for this bullshit government. But I’d do it for the glory of what western civilization is supposed to be. Now realistically WTF does this “lord” know about running an army or the logistics of invading a country or controlling the country in the aftermath? Probably nonsense. But it certainly made me think. Thanks.
What does he know? Probably nothing. That said, he's not retarded, and he's stated that he's talking to PMCs and other specialists about the possibility. Then he'll have a standing patrol force of around 30k individuals with specialist teams of hired PMCs. In theory.
Alternatively, it's all one gigantic shitpost.
Either way what a great mental exercise in motivating western men.
That’s the point
Haiti is an adventure. But real men conquer Mexican Drug Lords, create a DMZ, and deport 50 million non-whites.
Time for the 50-50-50 Plan in 3 monumental steps:
1) Conquer 50 miles into Mexico to create a DMZ and deportation center.
2) Process and deport 50 million illegals going all the way back to the 1960’s.
3) Finish this in 50 months. One million deportations a month.
Final note: It is hard to be drug lords when Hispanics walking the streets of America will be shot in the street.
The reason I think that is because reading the book made me want to form a company of mercenaries and have my own city-state. I agree with some of your other commentators that this guy probably does not know what he is talking about but I also think you do make an excellent point that it is only a matter of time at this point before someone comes along and actually means this.
To be honest last election when I was worried about what a Harris win would mean for the church I had wondered if there would be enough time before the left really started cracking down for me to get a force together and launch a coup in my area of Ohio and make it into a Christian fief with my house as the government. I live in the Dayton area which is a very nice part of Ohio / the Midwest but it has been subject to the same kind of Urban decay that you talk about a lot of your earlier writings. I don't think it's completely irreversible and with a competent monarchy in the area it could actually be a great personal fiefdom.
A competent Monarchy could fix a lot of things if given the space to act. Parliamentary systems are built around ass-covering by blaming the voter. That said, the US is far too strong of a system to realistically fight against. You have to work within it or leave entirely. Direct confrontation with the US government in almost any capacity is an inherently losing proposition for the foreseeable future.
The last call of the West would be the independent nation of Alaska- energy, metals, hydro-electricity, massive amounts of land, water, etc; close to new Arctic sea routes and proximate to Asia, the growth engine of the 21st century. Open to Northern/Eastern European immigration, high tech manufacturing, and small, limited Government. Population of only 700,000; most in one major city. Cut a deal with the USA for energy and security agreements, so it is Better for the federal government than the current arrangement. Alaska is the last best prize of the West.
I do apologize for the late reply. You have a good point with a lot of this. And I'll definitely take into account what you said about the government being too strong to realistically fight against.
Direct combat with the United States government (or any first-world government) places you in a losing position. Rather, figuring out how to optimize against their bureaucrats or fly under the interest of their bureaucrats is a better solution to survival.
We can also apply this logic to prison gangs. Assuming 10-20% of our prison pop is motivated by violence, plus 3 acres and a mule, we could invade all sorts of crazy places
I believe I stated that explicitly in one of my older articles: https://alwaysthehorizon.substack.com/p/post-faustian-ethnos-identity-and?r=43z8s4
As genius comic Kurt Metzger is fond of saying: "What's a country but a giant prison?"
Now let's tie some threads together:
https://peteribanks.substack.com/p/outsourcing-state-capacity-to-skinheads/comment/113842814?utm_source=activity_item
This is legitimately interesting. While I think there's a lot of internet idle talk and lulz involved, what's fascinating is not just the fact that a handful of serious backers and 30 or 50,000 volunteers to fight *literally could* conquer Haiti...but the fact that I don't think any real nation would give enough of a shit to intervene.
Haiti might literally be the most Godforsaken nation on Earth. Who the fuck would care if it was conquered?
The next question would be the political instability possible in the aftermath of such a conquest. If nobody intervened, why wouldn't the US just declare Greenland and Canada states and follow suit? Does a nation intervene on Haiti's behalf simply because Jamaica or the Bahamas might be next?
I think some response is likely from the international community on teh simple grounds that if 100k soldiers of fortune can get together and do what they want, it'll instigate global instability as a shitload of young European men want to follow the example.
If we could show the world we can take Haiti we could muster a force to take back England.
May it be ever so.
Excellent article, I plan to write something giving more of the inside perspective but I will leave it at this.
Thousands of young men have joined the military looking for adventure and meaning but have been met by a faceless bureaucracy that cares more about cyber awareness certifications than it does warfighting. They have training, will, and vitality and as you have said they will go to the first person to offer a real outlet for it.
It's become dangerously easy to rally large groups of well-trained and well-armed young men across the West. All it'll take is a spark.
Well, Miles would probably become the reincarnation of William Walker, who took Nicaragua in the 1850's and became its President, with the same eventual result. Taking Haiti would be more difficult, but holding it nearly impossible, and actually running it totally impossible.
I don't understand why you think it would be impossible to hold.
As foreigners without a national backing, logistics would be very difficult. How are you going to pay to feed a nation? Where is your income coming from? Haiti is a basket case. Guerilla resistance would also begin almost immediately.
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Lol
The future is medieval.
If there are empires, they will rule nations again. Not this disjointed junk we currently have where we have no sense of people or purpose. There will be duchies and dependencies. Barons and rulers. Peoples and zones.
Either the US will revitalize and work towards structuring towards that as a way to shore up it's foundation, or the break up will be long and those structures and institutions will arise organically.
Either way - you can see things like California as a sign of this. The Barons of California have been ignoring federal laws for over a decade now. Oregon. Colorado. Texas is beginning to when it started ignoring Biden to enforce the laws.
We're on a path towards these things, and have been.
As California goes, so goes the country.
It does look like we're headed that way, but I suspect that this political conniption won't usher it in. We'll pass through an Empire phase first, and we aren't even all the way out of Republic to Empire yet.
Makes sense Mckinley (thought he did not want to) would invade Spain and with that young men would find joy fighting and exploring the philippines (taft would be governor) and there be the Boxer rebellion which a future president Herbert Hoover would engineer a defense against the boxers. I think this contrasts from ww1 and ww2 which was just awful, We yearn for actual exploration
True.
this is why millions signed up for a one way trip to Mars and if Elon ever pulls off the Mars thing the west will empty
Also true.
Lord Miles or a talented orator who can paint fine art from Austria? Who cares at this point?
We need, demand an entire reset of their system.
Great article though I think you're not being conservative enough with your estimates. Only 1/100 would put on boots and leave the house and only 1/10 of those would carry a rifle. Accumulating donations would be impossible in the regularly banking system and the authorities would shut off the taps immediately.
I'm not sure if the authorities will care enough to shut off the monetary taps. If you can get a foot in the door you can probably pull loans from the IMF... Lots' of small nations get infrastructure loans and loans to put down rebellions.
Can we invade Commiefornia instead? Probably less resistance! As for the Haiti invasion, I'm 55 with no combat skills and I'm 1000% on-board. I just want a nice beach house! And maybe a rum plantation.
All it will take is one kid like this to understand militia.money and all our dreams will come true.
And how would adopting a cartel-like set of laws made by a feminist shitposter help anyone?
Oh, you mean a "feminist" who can be raped at will by any man she publicly proclaims she sexually accepts until she equally publicly retracts that acceptance?
A "feminist" who, if she wants the vote, would have to accept a challenge to a mutual hunt in nature equipped only with a 25cm blade and 15m of strong cordage?
And a "cartel" where the capo can be challenged to similar mutual hunt in nature by any soldado?
What is it with you Russians and your gangs? Are you really such little shits that you have to gang up on individuals like I saw in Irkutsk walking down the sidewalk nearly splattered by the blood of a guy who a bunch were beating to pulp?
Just askin...
"feminist" because the only specific law in the whole document is weirdly directed at rape
"cartel" because the whole document reeks of "might makes right", where the best murderer can easily solve any dispute into his own favour
That whole document reeks of some individualistic shitposter which has never held something heavier than his discount AR-15 he shoots racoons with, and who read enough Kipling and Carter to believe that if people have a right to ritually kill each other that'll turn into something better than a complete chaos and a shitshtorm.
That last ad hominem is so weird and pathetic I won't even answer it.
Gangsters like gang rape so I suppose it makes sense that you'd see it as feminist.
The roots of this law are in world war II veterans dealing with the emergence of communism on the heels of the US alliance with a Soviet Union.
As for "might makes right" and "cartel" you not only failed to address the scenario in which the capo (cartel boss) can be killed by an individual thereby rendering the whole "cartel" analogy invalid, but you also failed to address the conditions of the mutual hunt in nature so I'll spell it out for you in an illustrative story regarding what constitutes "might":
The Tale of Lin Tse
An enormously big lumberjack, who was also a bully, took a delight in tormenting the Chinese whenever they appeared at the company store. He thought it especially hilarious to trip them when they were loaded with supplies and going out the door. Also he kept alive and continually embellished the mistake of the intended bride being placed in the brothel. His joy in that joke on these small stature people, when his only pride was his bulk and strength, reached to inexhaustible extremes. The hatred that the Chinese felt for him is fully understandable when the stories told show that the other loggers were ashamed that he was one of them. The Chinese had become well enough acquainted with the logger’s ways to understand most of the foul jokes and to understand that this man’s attitude didn’t represent that held by most of the others. The other loggers continually admonished the bully with “you wouldn’t talk like that to a man who was big enough to challenge you to a fight.”
Then one day when this remark was made after the usual taunts from the giant logger it brought a memorable response from one of the Chinese. The target at the moment was a slight, sensitive-faced Chinese man named Lin Tse who had come into the store alone. The fury that had been burning showed itself in this man who contained it with the patient endurance that countless centuries had bred in his being. It didn’t leap into flame; it glowed with a small controlled dignity like some unearthly fire.
Lin’s purchase was only a small package and although there was a big audience of men gathered in the store the bully didn’t think it worthwhile to trip him as he went out. He contented himself with foul worded jokes. Lin heard the other loggers disapproval expressed in “you’d be more careful with a man who was big enough to fight you.” Lin Tse knew the full meaning of the fight to which the words referred and his understanding and deliberation created drama when he turned and faced the bully and the roomful of men with dignity.
The surprise of his turning to meet them instead of hurrying out the door as unobtrusively as possible caused a hush to fall. In the waiting silence his words were clear and in fully understandable English, “If you gentlemen will ensure a fair fight, I will meet this man.”
There was only a short pause before someone said enthusiastically, “Let’s give them guns. That’s the only way to make a fair fight in this case.”
The foreman was there and spoke up. “No. We’ve all agreed. No more guns. I’d like to see the little guy have his chance, but the judge said if there’s another suspicious shooting every man here will face trial as an accomplice of a murderer.
Before an argument developed on the point Lin announced, “I do not want guns. Fifteen meters of strong cordage in addition to a knife will make an equal fight if there’s a big area that has not been logged clean.”
The big man didn’t like the sound of things and, with a guffaw, he tried to go back to the joking game, “He wants to tie me up before he fights me.” He pulled the end of the rope from a nearby coil, threw it at Lin, and held out his wrists with, “Here, let’s see you do it.”
No one laughed. The men were all on their feet and approaching the little man with an interest that was clearly that of a wolf pack moving up on a fight, but also with a silence that verged on becoming a reverent calm. They asked what he could do with a length of cordage.
Lin answered, “Man is intelligent. His intelligence makes him a fit opponent for a bear or even an elephant. With a knife and a cord a man can make a spear, or a bow and arrow, or a trap. He can do many things. He can fight with his intelligence, not just his bulk or his skill in handling a gun. But surprise is necessary to use intelligence. Man does not show the bear how he plans to trap him. I think it is fair that I and this man-bear have equal knives and lengths of cord but do not tell how we will use them.”
The trap had been sprung. A man had used the weight of a mob for an intelligent purpose by appealing to fair play rather than the usual half-sleeping mob tendencies toward turning a fight into mob entertainment. The bully tried all the jokes and tricks he had learned in his attempt to put a laughing, leering mob behind him, but the mob weight was all used to make him accept the challenge on the fair terms stated. He wanted to reduce the size of the combat area but they insisted on making it big enough to give strategy its due weight.
The fight lasted a day and an night and well into the next day. Three times the big man tried to come out but the jeers of the others drove him back. At twilight on the second day, when everyone was preparing to go into another all night vigil, Lin appeared at the designated place and said calmly, “A man is dead in the woods. Would some of you gentlemen help me carry him out.”
If the method Lin used to bring down the big man was ever known, it isn’t of record, but the occasion touched the imagination of the men. An area big enough to permit strategy, a knife with a 25 cm blade, too short for sophisticated swordsmanship, and a fifteen meter length of cordage, strong enough to jerk up a big man’s weight, became the criteria of a fair fight.
Whether it was: (1) Simple fear of the unknown when contemplated through light and dark hours in the forest or (2) a new respect for the unknown in people, when meeting those different from oneself; would be hard to determine; but the number of deaths by unstated causes in Camp 38 decreased after the establishment of those criteria for fairness.
p. 123-125 “Camp 38: Current Model of Northern European Lifestyle Before Christianity” by Jill von Konen, ISBN 0-914752-19-7, Sovereign Press, 326 Harris Rd., Rochester, WA 98579
https://fairchurch.org/ecclesium/berkana/Shenandoah.IA.US/Camp-38.pdf
As for chaos what do you think we're entering into at present?
So even better, it isn’t even a fair fight but a gook-ish stay in the woods that’ll favor the most unrelenting killer. In a society like this a single cold-blooded murderer can strung up any and each “sovereign” (the non-ironic usage of this word highlights a 87th degree derangement btw) who disagrees with his actions, then rule over the rest as they’re cowed into submission. If you want to larp some shizo ideas of “there’s a deterrent to conflicts so people try not to conflict”, at least pick something based like high noon duels of the West. I won’t even adress a cartel situation, because absent of a challenge like you mentioned, if someone singlehandedly disposes of a capo, he’s very likely to become the next one due to his skills and newly-found reputation.
Oh, and of course this whole rant is accompanied by a phobia of communism, ever looming treat above Liberty™ and Democracy™. Who would’ve thought that you have a Red Menace hiding under your bed!
I do think that we need a formalized dueling culture. Especially among any proposed nobility... but it needs to be a real dueling culture. Not a might-is-right sly-murderer-wins culture. One where dedication, virtue, and training matter.
Longsword, rapier, black powder pistol, that type of thing. A more traditional and formalized system of honorable violence and potentially lethal engagement. It doesn't have to be lethal; often it won't be.
Completely discounting physical discipline and acuity leads to an environment where your leaders are cowards and your soldiers are fools. There is a fair balance between simple brute violence as a method of social organization and a cowardly rule-by-law that now governs the West.
We need to bring back duelists.
Thank you for demonstrating your depth of character.
In a year or two, once things settle down (and here is a sentence that has not been uttered once in human history since 1804) I think I might take a vacation in Haiti
It'd be nuts to see what a half million uprooted Americans could do to a nation like thati n a year or two.
Once the conquest is over, all sorts of wilderness/agriculture/permaculture people would absolutely RUSH in, knowing they could plant native, useful, and edible trees, without having to worry about Haitians cutting them down to sell for firewood.
And without having to worry about the USDA or EPA deciding to confiscate their trees for reasons.